Electronic Financial 9/11/08 Attack?

Update- It may just be a crazy meme. That is mainly why I waited, not long enough i guess.
Kanjorski and the Money Market Funds: The Facts

I have been thinking this over and I really don't know. When did the election turn? Was it the economy? My line of thinking gets darker. I don't believe in massive carefully paned conspiracy. I do however believe that if enough people have the same goal and follow similar tactics they can do bad things before any one or enough people catch on. SO, Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. Then there is the conspiracy. I am not sure i believe this but the evidence is piling up. Is this part of the Cloward-Piven Strategy? It was all layed out before the election. I have no idea but it is all getting very scary.

From Atlas Shrugs:

"Rep. Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania explains what former Treasury Secretary Paulson and Fed Chairman Bernanke told congress during the September 2008 closed door session. During the first third of the video an enraged caller is ranting to Rep. Kanjorski about how wasteful the first $700 billion bailout was. The best part is 2 minutes and 15 seconds into the tape where Rep. Kanjorski reveals what Paulson and Bernanke told congress that shocked them into supporting the first $700 billion bailout.

On Thursday Sept 15, 2008 at roughly 11 AM The Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw down of money market accounts in the USA to the tune of $550 Billion dollars in a matter of an hour or two. Money was being removed electronically.

The Treasury tried to help, opened their window and pumped in $150 Billion but quickly realized they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. So they decided to closed down the accounts.

Had they not closed down the accounts they estimated that by 2 PM that afternoon. Within 3 hours. $5.5 Trillion would have been withdrawn and the entire economy of the United States would have collapsed, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.

Kanjorski also explains why Paulson spent the bailout money differently than he originally proposed."

Here is the video from C-Span

"They say 4 or 5 trillion dollars could have been emptied out of the bank by the end of that business day. Presumably, it could not have gone all to one entity, else that entity just could have gone back when the markets opened, and continued to withdraw funds. So, if it were designed as action to induce a panic, it had to have been done in a way that the new would spread quickly, go "viral" as it were, to others holding funds or control over funds in similar banking institutions/markets. So, the transaction had to be public, or at least traceable, because they had to be noticeable, and they had to instill a panic so that the run would continue, and people would be noticing what was happening and would move to preserve and protect what money they could access."

There are clearly a mountain of more questions than answers. Was it just a panic run? Foreign government? Terrorists? Or Crazy as it is (yes very crazy) some one orchestrating it from in side the US? READ THE Post. It goes even further. What did the Senators know? I am a little sick. Hope this is all just some made up dream.

From Moonbattery

"These days it's not easy to know what to believe, as Democrats attempt to panic the herd into submitting to the socialist power play currently underway in Washington."

From Gateway Pundit

"This is all very interesting-- When President Hussein was campaigning and the "economic crisis" hit, he did not think it pressing enough to leave the campaign trail, but now we should push through a trillion dollars in legislation without oversight because a few weeks later the King deems it urgent?"

It is going around:
Zero Hedge: How The World Almost Came To An End At 2PM On September 18
Rush Limbaugh

JAG, 6 years and Frustration

I have been trying more sleep at night, so I am up in the morning and have has the chance to watch the reruns of JAG, the latter ones. The show has been off the air for some time but they are talking about the war on terror and 9/11. Just saying its been 6 yrs doesn't sink in with out some sign post to look at. I remember a conversation, just one, with my grandmother about Bush and the war. I think the news was on and she made a comment. She was in the war is bad always camp, except for WWII of course. She has been dead for two years and that was 2-3 yrs before that. i can't believe so much has happened my life and the life of this country in last 6 yrs.

It frustrates me that we have tried to do so much and have achieved so little. i am not saying we haven't had any accomplishments, we have. I just thought at the beginning we would fight this head on and have it mostly wrapped up in ten years and under control in 15-20 years. It looks as if we talk big and in reality are just slowing the progress of the terror agenda. i don't understand the general apathy. Why we didn't bring our diversity of thought, technological achievements and just general ingenuity to bear on this thing (and still don't and probably won't) and get it over with, i haven't got got a clue. i get a hard felling in my chest every time i think about it. It is not anger any more. It might be a frustration that i can't get past or understand. I am hopping it is not an acceptance of our weakness, of a slow slide back, or that people are only so strong, so bright and because of that history is a cycle that we will repeat over and over.

Bad, Irrelevant and Good Speech

I am in the store a couple of days ago. Go to the register and begin to put my items on the ubiquitous conveyor. There is a woman, 35-40, kid in the cart , dress a little upscale(wouldn't fit in N.Y. or what one thinks of the mid west)typical for around here. She is talking to the girl behind the counter, 18-19 straight black hair, a little dark makeup around the eyes and a black tee under the apron, about buying something, i didn't hear. The counter girl with a soft enthusiasm tells the soccer mom type that it's black and goes well. I paraphrase poorly here. Soccer mom uncertain, comments back then counter girl says well i identify with Johnny Cash. I couldn't hold back a grin. Soccer mom, done paying any how, walked off, not that she had a problem with what was said she just didn't have anything to say to it.

Any who. yes any who. I wanted to say something to counter girl. I am not quick or articulate on my feet. So I said nothing. What was i going to say? Some platitude about being happy or the beauty of the world. There is some wisdom in it, not that she would hear, and it is way over the top. I wished i had a book or several that were on point, a philosophy , not modern pop psychology book that i could have suggested she read.

She will have to come to that on her own, like the rest of us on that and many other views. Some short term suggestive guidance that carries over is what was in order. You are not going to convince her that her view is short sighted, a fragment of what is the whole and if followed for to long and to far is self defeating. The thought is to point the way and let one find a path.

I tell you this why, bad ideas/speech and an overwhelming amount of partial or irrelevant ideas/speech. Olbermann and O'Reilly come to mind. It is draining us all, leading us down mostly irrelevant paths that go to nowhere or to places we don't recognize.

The answer to bad speech is good speech and we need mountains of it now. We can't get both from the same place. It has to come from people that we know or are completely unknown to us, everything else is tainted, so individuals. No one can stop for a three hour chat every time they hear half truths, falsities, illogical arguments or know were the path leads when they don't. They are not going to listen if you do have the time.

So we need to quickly point the way. As an example the 9/11 truthers. You will never change their mind with facts. You have to start by pointing them to books, articles, etc. on psychology of belief and our need for security. Then to group think and how it has lead to mistakes. Then let it go. Of course you can never mention 9/11 directly. They will have to come to the "never contribute to conspiracy what you can explain by incompetence or stupidity" Then to the fact that your never going to explain every little detail.

The answer i think is cards, like the decks with criminals on them. You hear something that is wrong, not just a difference of ideology, hand them a card. They would have the books or articles on them sectioned 1st, 2nd and so on and an e-mail of someone to fill in the gaps, preferably you. The more i think about it, it may not work with as many things as i think. Just a thought.

General Rant part 1of ?

Part ? i lack the education to draw from a wealth of text and therefore have trouble making concise and coherent narratives to make my point. If i where to mention say Plato, and you have read Plato you have a body of ideas to understand what I'm saying, but I haven't read Plato or much else. as i have said i much prefer to watch or listen to something than read it, i understand better that way.

see already side tracked. i have said for some time that people are stupid. it sound bad and is mostly true. I have restrained my self to some extent trying not to put people off. Oh well. My overall opinion changes from time to time. most recently i am of the opinion that leftist and socialist ideas are in a massive up swing and are going to be the mainstream of political\governmental action for the next 20+ years. makes me sick...! i had thought we had decided that communism was bad and socialism by extension. heath care for everyone? massive cost but i haven't heard much about the tax increase to pay for it. maybe its cheaper for everyone if it is universal but there not doing it that way. pay for collage for everyone and on and on. My money not everyones.

What happened to the comfort of self reliance. does any body even know what that means. i don't want to wait for my government to come around and feed me every day. It Is disgusting!
On a less philosophical point if we are dependent on them what happen when they are not there or people stop loaning the US money. It is more complicated than that i guess.

there was something on price controls for labor in the works. i haven't looked into it yet. i don't know how you have a strong state with a weak people. i still think it is in the realm of possibility that there is a 1929 type crash to come. i know how to raise crops on a small scale at least and know enough to fix are jerry rig the basics to get buy. The good thing and i shouldn't say it is that hopefully those who somehow think the government should take care of them probably, under 1928 circumstance, can't take care of themselves. they will have to leave if they want to survive. i am not a survivalist i live in the burbs so don't go there.

The other side, well the religious right make me just about as ill. they may not run the country into the ground but they will not let it move forward either. Gay marriage, numbers anyone, no i didn't think so. haven't seen them for either side. if being gay is a sin then god will punish them. i also think that it is beyond belief that some think it should be explained to grade schoolers either way.

Abortion i must have missed something. can we call a truce at say 18 months. If you think its wrong don't do it but leave the rest of us alone. i have a problem with strict interpretation of scripture. Is it possible that it was told in a way to make the ideas easier to understand?
strict conservative beliefs on social issues, gay rights, abortion, porn, art, etc, are in general repressive.

Should something be kept form kids, hell yes. Do i wish adults wouldn't watch and listen to so much vulgar bs, Stern comes to mind, yes but not governments place. People that libel other such as Oberman, Savage, and i want so say 9\11 truthers should be put on trial. stop the bs. If you print classified info jail maybe?

Maybe a 5-10 year massive depression is what we need. People would have to actually think and hopefully gain a new understanding of self reliance. Sort of concise and coherent in the end.